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* "It's truly shocking how many many psych majors seem to think their bachelor's is impressive." ([http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/z8rev/theres_this_fun_little_tradition_people_have_when/c62n5sl?context=3 2012])
 
* "It's truly shocking how many many psych majors seem to think their bachelor's is impressive." ([http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/z8rev/theres_this_fun_little_tradition_people_have_when/c62n5sl?context=3 2012])
  
* "You're not getting the complaint. '''"You're a bleeding heart idiot" is just one way of conveying, "be pragmatic, life isn't sacred."''' Trying to maintain some sense of the universal sanctity of human lives is unproductive and really won't get anyone anywhere. It's a kind of stubborn idealism that is utterly arbitrary in its nature (why human life, but not animal life? Why animal life but not plant life? Why plant life but not insect life? Why insect life but not microbial life?) and almost entirely unworkable in practice. It sounds good, but is ultimately facile.
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* "You're not getting the complaint. "You're a bleeding heart idiot" is just one way of conveying, "be pragmatic, life isn't sacred." Trying to maintain some sense of the universal sanctity of human lives is unproductive and really won't get anyone anywhere. It's a kind of stubborn idealism that is utterly arbitrary in its nature (why human life, but not animal life? Why animal life but not plant life? Why plant life but not insect life? Why insect life but not microbial life?) and almost entirely unworkable in practice. It sounds good, but is ultimately facile.
'''Furthermore, it's perfectly acceptable for someone to be glad someone else is dead.''' The person who expresses that notion isn't going to win any prizes for magnanimity, but is vital to the everyday functioning of society. We need those people, just like we need the deviants they often come to despise (what the optimal percentages of these groups in the population might be, who knows). In opposing each other, such groups keep each other in check, and the social system trends toward a productive equilibrium state.
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Furthermore, it's perfectly acceptable for someone to be glad someone else is dead. The person who expresses that notion isn't going to win any prizes for magnanimity, but is vital to the everyday functioning of society. We need those people, just like we need the deviants they often come to despise (what the optimal percentages of these groups in the population might be, who knows). In opposing each other, such groups keep each other in check, and the social system trends toward a productive equilibrium state.
 
Maybe I shouldn't be trying to convince you of anything, maybe you're one of those individuals who we need to believe in a kind of humanitarian idealism, but I really don't see much utility in failing to call out self-righteousness (regardless of the belief system), and it seems pretty clear that you've climbed up on a rather high horse here. I don't know the motives of those who downvoted you, but I can give a couple.
 
Maybe I shouldn't be trying to convince you of anything, maybe you're one of those individuals who we need to believe in a kind of humanitarian idealism, but I really don't see much utility in failing to call out self-righteousness (regardless of the belief system), and it seems pretty clear that you've climbed up on a rather high horse here. I don't know the motives of those who downvoted you, but I can give a couple.
 
One: "if you've ever been around children, you'd understand that they simply determine their identity from their surroundings."
 
One: "if you've ever been around children, you'd understand that they simply determine their identity from their surroundings."
'''Sounds like Skinner-style behaviorism to me (i.e. false as stated).''' Everyone knows it's more complicated than that, and none of us know GG Allin's whole story. Furthermore, his influences are irrelevant; MrSacTickler opposed GG's actions and would likely still oppose them regardless of the backstory. The underlying causes of behaviors don't negate their effect or whether others will be disgusted with them.
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Sounds like Skinner-style behaviorism to me (i.e. false as stated). Everyone knows it's more complicated than that, and none of us know GG Allin's whole story. Furthermore, his influences are irrelevant; MrSacTickler opposed GG's actions and would likely still oppose them regardless of the backstory. The underlying causes of behaviors don't negate their effect or whether others will be disgusted with them.
 
Two: the psych major puffery. You seem to think your opinion here is more valid than others. It appears that you believe this because of your academic training in psych, which suggests that you believe your opinion is rooted in objectivity while others are rooted in frivolous or subjective concerns. MrSacTickler's complaint was of personal revulsion, so whatever objective measures you think are relevant are most certainly not.
 
Two: the psych major puffery. You seem to think your opinion here is more valid than others. It appears that you believe this because of your academic training in psych, which suggests that you believe your opinion is rooted in objectivity while others are rooted in frivolous or subjective concerns. MrSacTickler's complaint was of personal revulsion, so whatever objective measures you think are relevant are most certainly not.
 
Strict reading: MrSacTickler is grossed out by GG Allin's behavior. Not in the realm of objective reasoning.
 
Strict reading: MrSacTickler is grossed out by GG Allin's behavior. Not in the realm of objective reasoning.
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In neither case are your psych credentials needed, desired, or in any way useful. Posting them comes across as pure puffery, and your failure to understand the appropriate context in which to draw evidence from psychology (note: NOT when challenging a highly subjective opinion) further provokes annoyance and ire.
 
In neither case are your psych credentials needed, desired, or in any way useful. Posting them comes across as pure puffery, and your failure to understand the appropriate context in which to draw evidence from psychology (note: NOT when challenging a highly subjective opinion) further provokes annoyance and ire.
 
Finally, this: "And nice job being mature about this and calling me an idiot. That makes your opinion a million times more valid."
 
Finally, this: "And nice job being mature about this and calling me an idiot. That makes your opinion a million times more valid."
'''Opinions are subjective responses. They are always trivially valid.''' _it_was_me called you an idiot because he/she disagrees with your mindset. You're the only person in this exchange who suggested that anyone else's opinion was invalid. You seem to derive the perceived authority to make this judgment from your psych major.
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Opinions are subjective responses. They are always trivially valid. _it_was_me called you an idiot because he/she disagrees with your mindset. You're the only person in this exchange who suggested that anyone else's opinion was invalid. You seem to derive the perceived authority to make this judgment from your psych major.
 
In short, you were dismissed because your post was preachy and completely off the mark. I pointed out the psych major bit because it reflected the most glaring problem with your post. Most would rather downvote than type out a long response like this one, and so would I most of the time." ([http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/z8rev/theres_this_fun_little_tradition_people_have_when/c62puko?context=3 2012])
 
In short, you were dismissed because your post was preachy and completely off the mark. I pointed out the psych major bit because it reflected the most glaring problem with your post. Most would rather downvote than type out a long response like this one, and so would I most of the time." ([http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/z8rev/theres_this_fun_little_tradition_people_have_when/c62puko?context=3 2012])
  

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